Monday, November 01, 2010 at 2:11 PM
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Running a single compelling, high quality site can be time- and resource-consuming, not to mention the creativity it requires to make the site a great one. At times–particularly when it comes to rather commercial topics like foreign currency exchange or online gambling–we see that some webmasters try to compete for visibility in Google search results with a large
number of sites on the same topic. There are a few things to keep in mind when considering a strategy like this for sites that you want to have listed in our search results.
Some less creative webmasters, or those short on time but with substantial resources on their hands, might be tempted to create a multitude of similar sites without necessarily adding unique information to any of these. From a user’s perspective, these sorts of repetitive sites can constitute a poor user experience when visible in search results. Luckily, over time our algorithms have gotten pretty good at recognizing similar content so as to serve users with a diverse range of information. We don’t recommend creating similar sites like that; it’s not a good use of your time and resources.

If all of your sites offer essentially the same content, additional sites are not contributing much to the Internet.
While you’re free to run as many sites as you want, keep in mind that users prefer to see unique and compelling content. It is a good idea to give each site its own content, personality and function. This is true of any website, regardless of whether it’s a single-page hobby-site or part of a large portfolio. When you create a website, try to add something new or some value to the Internet; make something your users have never seen before, something that inspires and fascinates them, something they can’t wait to recommend to their friends.
When coming up with an idea for a website, scan the web first. There are many websites dealing with common and popular services like holiday planning, price comparisons or foreign exchange currency trading. It frequently doesn’t make sense to reinvent the wheel and compete with existing broad topic sites. It’s often more practical and rewarding to focus on smaller or niche topics where your expertise is best and where competition for user attention might be less fierce.
A few webmasters choose to focus their resources on one domain but make use of their domain portfolio by creating a multitude of smaller sites linking to it. In some situations these sites may be perceived as doorways. Without value of their own, these doorway sites are unlikely to stand the test of time in our search results. If you registered several domains but only want to focus on one topic, we recommend you create unique and compelling content on each domain or simply 301 redirect all users to your preferred domain. Think of your web endeavour as if it were a restaurant: You want each dish to reflect the high quality of the service you provide; repeat the same item over and over on your menu and your restaurant might not do so well. Identify and promote your strength or uniqueness. Ask yourself the following questions: What makes you better than the competition? What new service do you provide that others don’t? What makes your sites unique and compelling enough to make users want to revisit them, link to them or even recommend them to their friends?
We suggest not spreading out your efforts too broadly, though. It can be difficult to maintain multiple sites while keeping the content fresh and engaging. It’s better to have one or a few good sites than a multitude of shallow, low value-add sites. As always, we encourage you to share your thoughts via comments as well as by contributing to the Google Webmaster community.


35 comments:
You don't touch on the following aspects;
--- Attempting to Own the SERPs ---
Some people intentionally attempt to run multiple sites for the same terms, same audience.
--- Interlinking mutually owned sites ---
Some people run multiple sites for the same niche, or for highly similar/related niches/terms.
They then link between them, bolstering their apparent popularity as well as attempting to increase their relevancy for specific terms via link text.
You don't cover either of those 2 situations, both of which crop up.
Does that mean that google finds such practices as acceptable, so long as the sites are original/of interest?
How about coding similarities?
In an example we have multiple clients in the same industry but different locations, that use a template design, therefore having the same (similar) code. However all textual content is written specifically for that client and is completely different than the other site(s).
Is there any differentiation between "code similarities" and "content similarities"?
Like always I applaud Google's willingness to talk about SERP's and topics related. Great post and great information.
Buuuuuuut what's the point of the open comments? I've never seen a response to any of the thousands of great questions asked in any of the posts. Not really making things very social...
damn, are you for real?
do you believe your own lies?
there's only 1 reason why you wrote this article; because it still works and there's nothing you can do about it!! those are the facts
the rest are a bunch of lies and excuses ...
very, very weak!
vey good
thanks
http://koora4news.blogspot.com/
Wow ! Google know what the people are doing... Anyway its a good suggestion from Google to webmaster not to divert their energy/time on creating similar and non valuable sites...
Why to waste time on multiple site when we can not add value to them.
About SERP domination: If someone creates two unique sites that share a common topic and if both sites have a great quality - he totally deserves to dominate the SERPs for the common topic with the two top positions. .02$
All those multiple-domain websites you're talking about, just call them by their names - exact-match web spam and low-value affiliates. Now, is Google here candidly asking them to stop spamming the web (as their core income-generating activity)? For real?
Help us and help yourself. Update the algorithm. Get the spammers out. Till then, we can only believe what our eyes see: unfortunately automated web spamming works, and it works well on Google.
Good advice!
Cool, thanks!
Mick-Mar Inc.
I think this is a good conversation. I posted the main question(s) posted in the comments to webmasters here
Maybe we can get some answers.
Well - as it seems replies from G on these things are scarce...
...Matt...
you mentioned coding similarities?
In regards to this subject - should have no bearing at all.
This is on about similar/repeated content, low value/mass site production to corner the market etc.
Taht said - you may want to be careful about how similar things get.
In the Google Webmaster Central forum, we've seen cases when it seems G gets al ittle confused due to strong similarities in code/file structure and similar content ... and starts merging the data.
That results in the wrong site ranking for other sites content etc.
So try to make sure there are some technical differences as well as the actual content being different.
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...MichielVanKets... & ...Stephan...
3 Cheers - couldn't agree more :D
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...Sebastian Gebhard...
Not 100% with you - but I can see the reasoning.
If the sites are good, and not spammy etc. - then it should be fair.
But - if they are that closely related, they would likely do better being Merged than ran independantly in most cases.
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So - is anyone from G actually gonna respond etc.?
I would like to hear more about duplicate content. What about duplicate pictures, e.g. similarities in the filename?
What about similar coding?
Regards
Haeslig
Søgemaskineoptimering
Google presents a solid logic, but how can website owners protect themselves from other webmasters who build multiple similar sites to hurt the original website or benefit from its brand related traffic?
@Autocrat: While I am a bit reluctant to speculate about deliberate intentions I think the message is clearly that all sites need to be original and compelling in order to stand the test of time for search engines. As for on-topic linking your own sites -- feel free to do so :-)
@Matt: Great question actually, thanks for pointing it out :-) You should not be concerned about coding similarities. Our focus remains on unique content.
@Adam: Point taken -- I believe I can try to improve in that area and respond more actively to the questions raised through comments :-) I am not promising to respond to every comment but I will make an effort to participate more often :-)
@Onlinex: I’d really not think about what other webmaster might be doing too much. It’s out of your hands anyway. Best strategy remains to ensure exceptional quality content and a great user experience. And if you happen to come across spam in our search results, please feel free to bring it to our attention via spam report -- https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/spamreport?hl=en
"over time our algorithms have gotten pretty good at recognizing similar content so as to serve users with a diverse range of information"
That's excellent news. Now what are the chances to apply the same principles to Google News?
Where sites that rewrite articles are accepted because they claim to have a "editor" and a "staff", while other run by one professionnal journalist providing only orginal content are not accepted.
Don't worry about providing an answer. I won't hold my breath
Google's doing a great job! All-in-all, if you just post some ORIGINAL thoughts on the topic of the site - anything, really! - Google is more than willing to index it!
...Kaspar Szymanski...
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I think the message is clearly that all sites need to be original and compelling in order to stand the test of time for search engines.
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So long as your business can support not ranking well for Months at a time due to being pushed down the ranking because other site owners/SEO Companies/businesses are spamming the SERPs with multiple sites.
Then there is the much more legitimate area of Affiliates.
Jsut go look at things like Holidays/Travel.
Sure - the origin/parent company isn't spamming the net or anything ... but you may have to wade through 10+ affilaite/child sites.
Here are 33 sites that use the same template, have no real information, have only spammy backlinks and rank well by Google results. Why?
http://disastercover.com
http://lonelyheartscasino.com
http://ghidpc.com
http://flaminglotuscreations.com
http://roytoys.net
http://casinoscandinavia.com
http://ahiddenpearl.com
http://onlinecasinotx.com
http://all4property.net
http://biggesttsunamisite.com
http://intermezzoevents.com
http://aconservativevoicetoday.com
http://silentgarden.net
http://bovinaisd.net
http://britneyfinland.com
http://onlinecasinoeasy.com
http://onlinecasinoredbook.com
http://aflakmasr.com
http://londonnecropolis.com
http://allistonvintagesledshow.com
http://iistoolbox.com
http://abuse-game.com
http://geniusnews.com
http://onlineblackjack.im
http://ilporcellino.net
http://perfectportugalproperties.com
http://gioitre.org
http://agrupacionmurgas.com
http://bkkmaps.com
http://centraler.org
http://biketrialsur.com
http://hcdp08.org
http://cromatik.com
@halpin:
I've checked these sites. They get links from paid posts from blogs created automatically and interlinked with each other and forum profiles.
It seems that there 200 other sites at this group - many of them has no whois protect and only one owner "Danhoff Consultants LTD".
The strange thing is how Google passed these sites to the US Google TOP1 of "online blackjack" and "casinos online".
online blackjack - http://ahiddenpearl.com
casinos online - casinoscandinavia.com
Seems that Matt Cutts is tired doing his job. Even a year ago the situation was much much better
Well I'd take it more as a warning. We all know it is possible to exploit SERPS but what we do not know is for how long.
Anyone investing a lot of resource, time or money into developing a lot of sites will awake some day to find their business no longer exists.. On SERPS anyway.
So be clever and/or arrogant about it but the bottom line is unchanged and this post is just little reminder.. So be afraid that someday you end up with nothing or be smart build a single domain that will mature and grow risk free.
The choice, as always, is yours.
I think it is silly to let people have many sites for one business and get away with it. In one case I see that 7 out of top 10 results are owned by same guy. Mostly made with wordpress in a few minutes. The all have different content, different look but they all sell the same service. What choice does this give to searchers? Also is this fair to those who spend months to construct a unique website from scratch?
...Kibris.Com.Tr...
That's the same issue I've raised a few times - including here.
Still waiting on someone from G to respond.
And likely to keep on waiting.
How about multiple sites with the purpose of geo targeting. Take a look at an issue posted to forum - http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Webmasters/thread?tid=51aa5a10774c8310
"Think of your web endeavour as if it were a restaurant: You want each dish to reflect the high quality of the service you provide; repeat the same item over and over on your menu and your restaurant might not do so well."
Ever been to Taco Cabana?
@pier0: did you try to bring your concerns to the attention of the Google guides monitoring our Google News forum? -> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/news?hl=en
@halpin: Like we’ve mentioned in our post on reporting spam, it is possible that our algorithms may already be treating suspicious techniques appropriately. I think you might find the post interesting ->
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2010/11/how-to-help-google-identify-web-spam.html
@mrpaul: I believe geotargeting multiple sites is legitimate, especially if they contain target group specific, original and compelling content :)
1. Sites gain rankings through hard work, use of resources and skill. If a company has 2 domains in the top 10 then clearly they have done their job well. Google hasn't put them there for selling the most cookies, they have put them there because they have worked to get there.
2. If some kind of rule came along to disallow the use of multiple domains then which of those domains should be allowed to stay in the serps?
3. Some companies have divisions that require seperate sites, it is easily possible for these divisions to "closely" meet at the edges. At the end of the day these sites could easily rank for commonly shared phrases.
If your rivals have 2 sites in the top ten there is nothing to stop you trying to achieve exactly the same as they have, yes it will take some work and mean you have to create some useful unique content. "Thats life"..
Not allowing multiple domains in the serps would be like not allowing a company to open 2 branches of their burger bar in the same city, if they are prepared to invest and work hard then they deserve all the success in the world. If a company owns multiple domains and they have unique content they will also rank for phrases that "each other does not", so content is the key.
It's not rocket science, if you are up against multiple domains then get over to godaddy, pull your sleeves up and work as hard as your rivals have.
@Mary You either haven't got a clue about what is being discussed here or you're just putting it in a way that you can support your argument.
1. Buying links, links exchanges etc. is that the hard work these companies do to impress google?
2. Perhaps the older one stays.
That would be fairer.
3. I don't think anyone here is talking about divisions. We simply point out that these multiple sites are being owned by same companies/individuals who sell exactly the same product or service on these multiple sites. These multiple sites are there merely to kick competitors out of their ways.
Yes same company can have 2 or more branches of their burger bar in same city, but it is unlikely that they will be opened at the same street.
Now tell me. If there are 2 McDonalds and 1 Burger King on that same street, do you have 3 options or 2?
I think it makes sense to follow what google is sying. Simply because that is the only way. Vision is the key. If the site owner has a clear vision as to what he wants to achieve in long term ? he will have to focus on content.
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I have been seeing some rough spam, xrumer sites which doing very well in SERP's lately:
www.bingoed.com 3rd position at "no deposit bingo" which is a very competitive search term.
2nd one which owned by same spam group is:
www.funbingosites.com
top position for fun bingo sites.
Both are 1 page site, ugly white background and bad content, when i checked backlinks i was shocked, i have never seen anything spammier than this.
My point is, when a googler visit a good quality with genuine content and added value which is part of a network, wouldnt it be better to simply devalue those links instead of giving a penalty?
obviously when clearing room for that kind of spam, the visitors will see bad sites, next time they search, they will open bing instead of google and it is already happening, a friend of mine is buying a 500k monthly budget ppc not at this niche, he told me that bing are picking up very rapidly lately, no doubt that bad SERP's result in users choosing a different SE.
Is domain name protection by brand considered bad practice network?
Here is what i bumped into:
www.bigbrotherbingo.com is a brand.
They run 5 other big brother bingo domain names all in top 10 of SERP's:
www.bigbrotherbingo.com (ranked 1+2)
www.bigbrother-bingo.com (ranked 3)
www.big-brother-bingo.com (ranked 4)
www.bigbrother-bingo.co.uk (ranked 7)
www.big-bro-bingo.com/big-brother-bingo.html (ranked 8)
All the above domains are owned by same group which has a trademark over those kind of domain names. All of the domain names (but the rank 1+2) have zero added value, more of a navigation thing, sites were created just for the sake of dominating Google SERP's for a brand name terms.
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