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The Impact of User Feedback, Part 1

Tuesday, June 03, 2008 at 11:55 AM



About a year ago, in response to user feedback, we created a paid links reporting form within Webmaster Tools. User feedback, through reporting paid links, webspam, or suggestions in our Webmaster Help Group, has been invaluable in ensuring that the quality of our index and our tools is as high as possible. Today, I'd like to highlight the impact that reporting paid links and webspam has had on our index. In a future post, I'll showcase how user feedback and concerns in the Webmaster Help Group have helped us improve our Help Center documentation and Webmaster Tools.

Reporting Paid Links

As mentioned in the post Information about buying and selling links that pass PageRank, Google reserves the right to take action on sites that buy or sell links that pass PageRank for the purpose of manipulating search engine rankings. Even though we work hard to discount these links through algorithmic detection, if you see a site that is buying or selling links that pass PageRank, please let us know. Over the last year, users have submitted thousands and thousands of paid link reports to Google, and each report can contain multiple websites that are suspected of selling links. These reports are actively reviewed, and the feedback is invaluable to improve our search algorithms. We also are willing to take manual action on a significant fraction of paid link reports as we continue to improve our algorithms. More importantly, the hard work of users who have already reported paid links has helped improve the quality of our index for millions. For more information on reporting paid links, check out this Help Center article.

Reporting Webspam

Google has also provided a form to report general webspam since November 2001. We appreciate users who alert us to potential abuses for the sake of the whole Internet community. Spam reports come in two flavors: an authenticated form that requires registration in Webmaster Tools, and an unauthenticated form. We receive hundreds of reports each day. Spam reports to the authenticated form are given more weight and are individually investigated more often. Spam reports to the unauthenticated form are assessed in terms of impact, and a large fraction of those are reviewed as well. As Udi Manber, VP of Engineering & Search Quality mentioned in his recent blog post on our Official Google Blog, in 2007 more than 450 new improvements were made to our search algorithms. A number of those improvements were related to webspam. It's not an understatement to say that users who have taken the time to report spam were essential to many of those algorithmic enhancements.

Going forward

As users' expectations of search increase daily, we know it's important to provide a high quality index with relevant results. We're always happy to hear stories in our Webmaster Help Group from users who have have reported spam with noticeable results in our Webmaster Help Group. Now that you know how Google uses feedback to improve our search quality, you may want to tell us about webspam you've seen in our results. Please use our authenticated form to report paid links or other types of webspam. Thanks again for taking the time to help us improve.
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21 comments:

http://search-engines-web.com/ said...

You do not have an ethical right to penalize Websites that buy links.

Nor do you have the right to decide who is buying them for pagerank purposes.

WHEN DID YOU BECOME MINDREADERS

If you are going to focus on sites buying links - you should also focus on large sites that gain so many backlinks from Public Relations and Press releases that are consumed by hundreds of news sites and blogs.

The small website is finding ti harder to compete with large companies that by MILLIONS of adwords and get top positions - or spend millions on SEO and PPCs.

You are hurting the SMBs who are trying to get the crumbs left from the giants.

We are talking about a few extra hits and a few extra purchases from these efforts that can really make a difference in the survival of a business or a Website....

Don't harm people who are living off the few crumbs that escape from the giants

Andy Beard said...

I think you really need to qualify exactly what classes as a paid link.

For instance when Google are sponsors of a trade show, as is often the case, they frequently gain both text and graphic links.

Things are however moving online more and more, so if someone held a purely online trade show, they might also have sponsors.

Some trade shows allow their sponsors to do a sponsored presentation or possibly an interview or keynote.

Then you have paid reviews. I would be the first to admit that some of them are absolute junk, but some people spend a great deal of time researching and writing reviews.

I have complied and block the few reviews I have written with robots.txt - there is a bug that some of them are no longer indexed (without snippet), they are receiving tons of juice still.

You can't use nofollow in a paid blog review for editorial deep links, because if you link through to a site you might get treated as a spammer by a comment/trackback spam plugin.

You started the crackdown on paid reviews at the beginning of October 2007. There are still blog which are read by Google engineers that contain paid reviews and have not received penalties.
There are also blogs that thank their advertisers each month that give them followed links.

Bloggers are still running competitions where entry tickets are awarded for links of various types.

Stockholders can still freely link to websites where they have holdings.

Google has never provided proof that paid links create poorer search results. They are almost without exception relevant, and if a site can afford paid links, they must somehow be making money.
Companies that make money are generally the ones who are satisfying their customers.

Obviously for any site selling viagra, the cheapest way to get links is to publish Wordpress themes, or sponsor a large open source project.

Then of course there are the large link buys. Ebay buying Stumbleupon for instance - one day I am sure we will see a footer link.
What will happen when WP.com gets purchased, and the buyer adds

Wordpress a XYZ Company in the footer of 3 million blogs.

Rook said...

Didn't know where to post this, but How, oh how, do they choose Diego Velasquez as the daily icon on June 6th? Ever heard of a little thing called D-Day that changed the history of the world? That was very, very disappointing.

Ralf said...

Some idiot said:
You do not have an ethical right to penalize Websites that buy links.

Google search is not a community service. It is not being paid by your tax-dollars.

They can do whatever the hell they want. And we, as users, can then choose to use or not use the website.

You have the right to sell links. They have the right to block you. I have the right to choose whatever search engine i want to use.

The small website is finding ti harder to compete with large companies that by MILLIONS of adwords and get top positions - or spend millions on SEO and PPCs.

You can't buy the top position on the search results of google, you can buy the top position of the sponsored links.

Lots of small websites are very easy to find and on top, without any SEO.

There are two kinds of way to sell products.

1) sell something i really want. I'll find you, i promise. You don't need google for that. The blogs will be all over your fantastic product. I'll hear about it from friends. You'll end up at the top of google. Without any SEO or other dirty tricks.

2) sell something i don't want. I don't want to find it. Leave me the f_ck alone. Go spent all your money on SEO. If google doesn't filter your crappy site of my results, i'll be using a search site that _does_ do that.

It's not about you. It's about me, the user. It's about what I want to find. Not what you want me to find, when i'm really looking for something else.

It really isn't even their call what they filter. Without users there is no google. And we decide what search engine we use based on usability and quality of search results.

I just don't think i want to find your site. Esspecially if you are paying for backlinks. I'm pretty sure, if that's how you spent your money, i can get the same product somewhere else for a lower price. From somebody that spents the money to please me, rather than to annoy me.

Admin said...

o yes, how u decide who buy links and who not?

Why u did not ban this sites from your SERP?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=buy+text+links

Daryl Clark said...

"You do not have an ethical right to penalize Websites that buy links."

I guess this person has a different concept of what "ethics" are. The dictionary defines ethics as, "A set of principles of right conduct."

If Google states these are their guidelines then those who choose not to follow them are be having unethically. It isn't the other way around.

ShopDownLite.com said...

I also find it challenging because google does allow a ton of those 'buy text link' companies in their results. It would be pretty easy to wipe them out and block those url's forever. As much clean up is being done I still see areas of the results pages where a specific company is shown a few times (For some reason still?) - which is annoying because then your result position is pushed down. Regardless Google is king and they are fully allowed to do whatever they like within legal means.

Zeeshan Syed said...

I am sorry but all the sites that are heavily buying links are doing far more better than ever before while we, the webmasters who are trying keep up with your quality guidelines are suffering real bad!

One of my websites that has held high rankings for over a year is suffering badly. I used to rank #2 and now I am #20 and has also fallen for many other terms that it used to rank very well for. What did I do? I did not buy a link! I kept on adding quality, fresh and unique content but what happens? I lost the top spots and was replaced by websites that are buying links on HIGH PR forums, buying reviews on blogspot blogs and what's even more astounding is that most of their links are literally labelled as "sponsor links" or "paid advertisment".

Webmasters like myself who do not buy links are suffering badly. I have had the links reported but so far nothing has changed except for my legit site loosing rankings.

Autocrat said...

Yup...
kind of funny that Google will say X is BAD...
but we will list sites that:
Offer X,
Sell X,
Promote X
...even though they would be the easiest things in the world to target!

You know, all those sites that mention selling links, exchanging links, requiring reciprocal links...
still listed in the index.

Autocrat said...

Adding to that...
though it has now been re-removed...

A site reported for 'Bad Practice' was permitted back in the SERPs... with exactly the same 'naughties' being practiced.

So, yeah, they removed it initially.
Yeah, they removed it when it was re-reported.

But why, oh WHY, did it get back in after the first?

.

One is left wondering jsut how much cleaning up Google actually does.

(And yes, things are better than they were... but considering hte number of sites that seem to get hit 'accidentally' or for 'little things', yet the big ones, the blatant ones etc., are left alone?

Vlado said...

This is similar to Goldstein and 1984 from Orwell :)

They offer you all possibilities. To play along rules and to use illegal things.

If u use illegal thing u will lose :)
If u play along rules u will never succeed :)

joke :)

PJ Swenson said...
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Tom said...

I too have a small business web site that I've worked on very hard, following all of Googles webmaster guidelines, seo guidlines, etc. I've never participated in link buying, but have joined one or two link exchange (free) programs. It seems the best I can achieve is a PR of 3, no matter what I do.

What's the motivation to continue ethical practices?

Susan Moskwa said...

Hi folks,

FYI on queries like [buy text links]: not all link purchasing is against the Google webmaster guidelines. We have no problem with links that are purchased for traffic and that don't pass PageRank. AdWords policy specifically forbids advertisements that advocate the violation of Google's webmaster guidelines, but if an ad isn't clearly in violation of our guidelines, it may be allowed to run.

Google does block a number of ads that clearly advertise buying/selling PageRank. For example, you don't see ads on phrases such as [buy PageRank].

If you know of a query that brings up ads on Google that clearly violate our webmaster guidelines, please post it here and we'll follow up.

For details about our stance on buying and selling links, see this blog post.

dwenterprises6 said...

Help!! I am new at this and am trying to gain Ranking and I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I submitted the Sitemap and there are 21 URLs that show no errors but it is still not Ranked. My website is really great if I do say so myself and I don't know anything about buying links or ranked pages or reviews (so that's how these sites get so many!) Also, to the guy that said if it's a good product he will find the website. The competition is so heavy for anything you can possibly think of, it absolutely is impossible to compete with the big boys. I'm just little me trying to run a small business to contribute to my household income. I don't have their kind of money to buy top billing on the CPC or buy all this other stuff. I'm honest and run an honest business. I give the lowest most fair prices that I can while still making a buck or two but I'm one of literally millions of other websites selling some of the same products that I do. If I'm on page 1000 who's going to see me??!!

Autocrat said...

...dwenterprises6...
Please go to the Crawling, indexing, and ranking discussion group.
http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Webmaster_Help-Indexing/topics

paisley said...

"You do not have an ethical right to penalize Websites that buy links." i completely disagree!

I own stock in Google and you are DEVALUING my stock by making Google's index return less relevant results with paid links.

I feel Google has the ethical obligation to it's stock holders to insure the integrity of the SERPs and therefore make the results as relevant to it's users by filtering SPAM.

p.s. i also do SEO and have no problem maintaining top 10 results for my clients WITHOUT doing link trades, buys, etc..

David said...

Google may do what ever it pleases. However this policy makes no sense because people continue to buy PR willy nilly.
I think Google would do better to measure quality by other factors such as bounce rates, time on site and conversion rates. Text links are an arbitrary measurement and are valued too highly in the algorithm.

dreamsplinter said...

What if a competitor is making false reports? Meaning they are just submitting your site on the paid links form when really you don't buy or sell links?

SEO Consultant said...

This site http://www.touchlocal.com is domination google results here in the UK and stopping small industry sites from having a chance.

They have a domain for every city in the UK and Ireland with the same design

http://www. touch (city name).com
They must have over 500 domain’s all with the heading touchlocal.com with the same design

See your yourself:
Google Query: asbestos removal contractors
Result page: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&pwst=1&q=asbestos+removal+contractors&start=0&sa=N

Look for Touch (cityname) .com on the first 5 pages
can you look into it please and tell me if it is spam?, lots of UK small business not happy about this site

George Land said...

Google is ONLY targeting small sites that cannot fight back or sue them. While all the giant sites (like Yahoo) for example sell links by the million loads, do no put any "nofollow" on the and still rank on top and have huge Page Rank.

Google is inherently unfair and a bully. let them try to ban Yahoo and all the you know what will hit the fan. They don't have the guts to pick on anyone big, while they ban you just for linking to friends' sites in your blogroll. Insane.