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An update on spam reporting

Wednesday, March 28, 2007 at 2:30 PM

(Note: this post has been translated into English from our German blog.)

In 2006 one of our initiatives in the area of communication was to notify some webmasters in case of a violation of our Webmaster Guidelines (e.g. by using a "particular search engine friendly" software that generates doorways as an extra). No small number of these good-will emails to webmasters have been brought about by spam reports from our users.

We are proud of our users who alert us to potential abuses for the sake of the whole internet community. We appreciate this even more, as PageRank™ (and thus Google search) is based on a democratic principle, i.e. a webmaster is giving other sites a "vote" of approval by linking to it.

In 2007 as an extension and complement of this democratic principle, we want to further increase our users' awareness of webmaster practices that do or do not conform to Google's standards. Such informed users are then able to take counter-action against webspam by filing spam reports. By doing so a mutually beneficial process can be initiated. Ultimately, not only will all Google users benefit from the best possible search quality, but also will spammy webmasters realize that their attempts to unfairly manipulate their site's ranking will pay off less and less.

Our spam report forms are provided in two different flavors: an authenticated form that requires registration in Webmaster Tools, and an unauthenticated form. Currently, we investigate every spam report from a registered user. Spam reports to the unauthenticated form are assessed in terms of impact, and a large fraction of those are reviewed as well.

So, the next time you can't help thinking that the ranking of a search result was not earned by virtue of its content and legitimate SEO, then it is the perfect moment for a spam report. Each of them can give us crucial information for the continual optimization of our search algorithms.

Interested in learning more? Then find below answers to the three most frequent questions.

FAQs concerning spam reports:

Q: What happens to an authenticated spam report at Google?
A: An authenticated spam report is analyzed and then used for evaluating new spam-detecting algorithms, as well as to identify trends in webspam. Our goal is to detect all the sites engaging in similar manipulation attempts automatically in the future and to make sure our algorithms rank those sites appropriately. We don´t want to get into an inefficient game of cat and mouse with individual webmasters who have reached into the wrong bag of tricks.

Q: Why are there sometimes no immediately noticeable consequences of a spam report?
A: Google is always seeking to improve its algorithms for countering webspam, but we also take action on individual spam reports. Sometimes that action will not be immediately visible to an outside user, so there is no need to submit a site multiple times in order for Google to evaluate a URL. There are different reasons that might account for a user´s false impression that a particular spam report went unnoticed. Here are a few of those reasons:

  • Sometimes, Google might already be handling the situation appropriately. For example, if you are reporting a site that seems to engage in excessive link exchanging, it could be the case that we are already discounting the weight of those unearned backlinks correctly, and the site is showing up for other reasons. Note that changes in how Google handles backlinks for a site are not immediately obvious to outside users. Or it may be the case that we already deal with a phenomenon such as keyword stuffing correctly in our scoring, and therefore we are not quite as concerned about something that might not look wonderful, but that isn't affecting rankings.
  • A complete exclusion from Google´s SERPs is only one possible consequence of a spam report. Google might also choose to give a site a "yellow card" so that the site can not be found in the index for a short time. However, if a webmaster ignores this signal, then a "red card" with a longer-lasting effect might follow. So it's possible that Google is already aware of an issue and communicating with the webmaster about that issue, or that we have taken action other than a removal on a spam report.
  • Sometimes, simple patience is the answer, because it takes time for algorithmic changes to be thoroughly checked out, or for the externally displayed PageRank to be updated.
  • It can also be the case that Google is working on solving the more general instance of an issue, and so we are reluctant to take action on an individual situation.
  • A spam report may also just have been considered unjustified. For example, this may be true for a report whose sole motivation appears to attempt to harm a direct competitor with a better ranking.

Q: Can a user expect to receive feedback for a spam report?
A: This is a common request, and we know that our users might like verification of the reported URLs or simple confirmation that the spam report had been taken care of. Given the choice how to spend our time, we have decided to invest our efforts into taking action on spam reports and improving our algorithms to be more robust. But we are open to consider how to scale communication with our users going forward.

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22 comments:

Philipp Lenssen said...

>... we know that our users might like
> verification of the reported URLs
> or simple confirmation that the
> spam report had been taken care of.
> Given the choice how to spend our
> time, we have decided to invest our
> efforts into taking action on spam
> reports and improving our algorithms
> to be more robust.

If users who report spam don't get any kind of (non-automated) feedback, they may end up not reporting spam anymore. Why would anyone want to shoot something into a black hole over a long time without any indicator that it's actually helping? I'm not criticizing the current approach, just trying to offer another point of view.

Motoko said...

>
> If users who report spam don't get any
> kind of (non-automated) feedback, they
> may end up not reporting spam anymore.
>


Well, AFAIC, I generally do not care that much about confirmations, because, generally, I report problems for searches I probably won't ever do again, that is an exceptional, everyday search, which resulted in problematic results.

However, when I exceptionally report a more personal problem, notably related to my website (or website of a possible client), I sure would be very glad to receive even a very short notice, confirming me that things will be solved (with very basic details of what will be done -or what has been done-, like the offending website has been removed from Google, or the ranking algorithm will be improved -and maybe I should check back in a few weeks, and possibly report the problem again, if it still stands-, etc.).

It can very well be automated messages, as long as they are specific, and properly selected ^_^;

When there is a major very basic problem, related to your personal website (a website, very clearly spamming the results -the only content is random words and links-, is ranked above you, or near your website, and the spammer uses words you might not want to see associated with your website), and it takes months for a solution to be found, with three reports during this period, it sure is highly frustrating, and it would surely help, if Google sent at least some short notices.

It needs not to be a general policy, it only really matters when the problem lasts, and it is really important (though I do understand that, in the case of Google, this would still probably represent quite a number of messages to send... but maybe you could make the people testing the horrible and totally unusable alternative SERPs and homepage designs, which appear from time to time, which is also completely unaccessible to people who cannot adapt so easily to exceptional designs, or the people who disfigured the Google Images result page, some time ago, during some Web 2.0 crisis -a very serious sickness, by the way, for which you surely should take a break immediately, *NOT TOUCH ANY COMPUTER*, and go to the mountains, or in the forests (or at least, to rest a lot, *AWAY FROM ANY COMPUTER* -oh, *AND FROM ANY WEB-RELATED CONFERENCE*), for a few weeks-, or maybe also the people who decided to strip "duration:foo" from the video search text box (meaning you have to retype it every time you modify the search, or click on the duration select box), to send these notices... well, maybe it would be more urgent to *MAKE YOUTUBE USABLE AT ALL*, like permitting to download the original video *NOT IN FLASH*, permitting to seek to non-downloaded parts -and seek with more precision-, permitting to do advanced searches -you can do it from Google, though-, etc. -and until then, permit to use "site:" or "inurl:", when searching videos, to only search on Google Video, because we generally do not care about the twenty duplicates on YouTube, when the video is on Google... (I'll sleep better tonight, I'm sure of it)).



As for "spammy webmasters realizing that their attempts to unfairly manipulate their site's ranking will pay off less and less", maybe I missed an episode, but I don't remember that huge bot farms, spamming forums, guestbooks, comments, buying expired domains, creating fake/parking websites, got so far as to be able to understand concepts like "fairness" ^_^; For their creators (and the people behind them), they won't care: they will always find ways to make money, be it by "improving" their bot, or by (re)using some other mean.

This is a global problem of today society, it surely won't be solved with algorithms (or so I hope...).


Finally, about authenticated spam report, this is probably a good thing, if it means they will be better handled, but, AFAIC, I don't feel like logging in, so I'll probably just continue using unauthenticated spam reports, for searches which are not related to my websites (though it does not mean they are, globally, less important).


(Do note this is a friendly comment... I just want things to improve -and never go backward-, and improve fast...).


PS: What about a large textarea, for writing the comment, and larger columns, for comment preview? (yeah, this is not a forum, but some articles do warrant some details in comments).

Clearpath SEO said...

How does one find out if they have been reported for spam to ensure that they are not being falsely accused. Is there a way to find out why Google has stopped a site for inclusion? My site for example has been live for 6 months or more, and not listed yet. My clients site has been live for 6 weeks, and is now listed already.

Asia said...

I used to believe the "reporting" effort was worthy, but lately it just seems like everything I send in is unjustified.

For example; on Google there seems to be a lot of affiliate website giants who purchase multiple mini-domains to promote various travel destinations (I use travel loosely here). These mini-domains eventually gain trust via their parent network and ultimately rise up to the top of Google.

Myself, the small business person, who has worked diligently and legitimately, to rank my websites, gets lost beneath these monsters.

How would this form of report not deem justifiable? Are they not utilizing a form of spam? Yahoo, bans affiliate websites, and considers them spam. Google, embraces them and considers them Trustworthy, MSN keeps everything nice and neat and shows no bias to one or the other.

I try to combat it with spam reports, but it is unjustified as they are my competitors, it's quite confusing, and frankly quite annoying, but I'll keep playing the game and maybe I'll just go out and create 100 mini-domains and link to them after I've earned my trusted pagerank 9.

I suppose I should never complain about Google, but here's a big example of a Spam Report I would send in. How does domain.com which was not a number 1 website for many years, rank #1 for the industry top keyword, when it's entire website is duplicated on Yahoo.com as a sports partner? In fact, the site ranks on Yahoo and Google for both domains - the Yahoo travel domain as well as the main domain. They are exact duplicate pages, same images, layouts and all.

It makes no sense to me, how do websites get penalized for one thing - and the search engines find it forgiving for sites they want to play ball with. I can probably quote out a hundred lines repeated by every search engine on Duplicate Content penalties - but can the search engine reps themselves say they were accurate in these quoted statements? I doubt it.

Sante J. Achille said...

Very interesting considerations most users will appreciate. I translated your post for my Italian readers.

Cheers,

Sante

WebProfessionals.org said...

Great idea! As the founder of a professional association for Webmasters (www.webprofessionals.org) I support this 100%

In fact, as an industry we also need to better define a "code of ethics" of acceptable practices. I realize that its hard to enforce but it at a minimum needs to be communicated!

José Paulo Santos said...

Hi!

I need your help urgently!
I was editing my html blog and I made a big mistake... Now, this
important blog as serious problems as you can see: http://interactsite.blogspot.com
in the Archives!!! I lost them all...
How can I restore all the archives?

They are in the google cache: http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:2ekEV-nHSQIJ:interactsite.blogspot.com/2006_02_01_archive.html+http://interactsite.blogspot.com/2006_02_01_archive.html&hl=pt-PT&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=pt&client=firefox-a

Who can help me to restore all this?

I CAN'T LOSE ALL THIS WORK... THIS AN IMPORTANT BLOGUE FOR THE
PORTUGUESE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM

Could you restore the blog to before 22.00 hours, Lisbon Time Zone, or
to yesterday?

Guys from GOOGLE, I really need you to restore the INTERACT blog!!! :-
(

Thank you

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Gestor de Projectos | Coordenador Projecto Interact | http://interactsite.blogspot.com/
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Sebastian said...

Could someone please split the monster link breaking page rendering?
http://216.239.59.104/search?
q=cache:2ekEV-nHSQIJ:interactsite.blogspot.com/
2006_02_01_archive.html+http://interactsite.blogspot.com/
2006_02_01_archive.html&hl=pt-PT&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=pt&
client=firefox-a
monster

Thanks
Sebastian

CATALIN GAFENCU said...

i am the owner of

http://www.catalingafencu.blogspot.com
and
http://www.gafencucatalin.blogspot.com

in time i upload a lot of pictures at blogger.com
but i forget the web adress of them

my email is catalin0745932170@yahoo.com
my conts are 0745932170 and 0745787372

i want a full list of all my pictures i ever uploaded to blogger so that i can use them to my page

Bahramerad said...

Why is my site blocked?

http://bahrameradblg.blogspot.com/

www.travelconnecxion.com said...

Why Blogger shows Japanese menu, when you view it in Japan?

You should let user select language, not deside for the user!

www.travelconnecxion.com said...

First I like to say your Spam reporting tool sucks and open to exploit.

What stops an unscrupulous Webmaster abusing it with a script automation an a cron job, a trojan or a worm run script?

You need to integrate the Spam reporting tool to a Webmaster account. When someone submits a Spam report the submitter should get a feedback and the penalized Website should get a feedback in their Webmaster panel.

After 6 years in Google index I was recently penalized. I want to know why?

Please have a look.
www.travelconnecxion.com

igor@travelconnecxion.com

softplus said...

Igor, the spam reporting tool does not automatically give the site a spam penalty. However, if there is something to penalize, I'm sure it will be found earlier with the tool. http://webmastershelp.iblogget.com/2007/03/14/can-someone-hurt-my-site-by-submitting-a-spam-report/

Suggestion: post your site in the Google Groups at http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Webmaster_Help-Indexing/ for a community site review.

durjoy said...

i know i shoudlnt ask for help here. i went to googles webmaster group . but nobody answered by question properly recetnly my site www.ganerbhubon.net has been removed from the index against these keywords - bangla mp3 , bangla natok, bangla tv . i have submited reinclusion report to google but havent replay . still my site is disappeared . please help . thanks

Regards

Niz

iGoogle said...

Okay, first thanx for your hrlp!
My Website is okay now! <__>

But I have a nice one for you!
Google Spam of the life time!

Maybe 200 sites spamming with duplicate content, cloaking, improper redirects, the works!!!

Take a look at www,passionasia.com
and www.12flight.com

All owned by the same company Passionasia! There are about 200 Websites!

HEre is the thread from our group about this issue!
http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Webmaster_Help-chit-chat/browse_thread/thread/dd9b776cd77d73ac/1dd992ff82809e72

I also posted it on Matt's blog!
I hope he had a nice vacation, because now comes the work!
http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/im-feeling-vacation-y/

And please do not tell me Google investigate all Spam, and please submit a Spam report!!!!

This company been doing this for 6 years!!! Google wake up and clean it up!!!

iGoogle said...

John are you following me or I am following you?
Which way did it go!!!
<__>

Home-Mortgage-Refinancing said...

Very interesting

xxx said...

are you sure spam reporting is working? a lot of people have reported a website which has a lot of spam for almoust an year and a half.and nothing.

Blackpool Hotels said...

but I don't remember that huge bot farms, spamming forums, guestbooks, comments, buying expired domains, creating fake/parking websites, got so far as to be able to understand concepts

Blackpool Hotels

Pau Klein said...

Dear sirs,

There is a blog www.vviajar(dot)com that copy everything that we post on my blog and many others.

I am worried about being banned by google due to de duplicity.

What can I do? Where can I report that?

Kind regars
Pau Klein
www.pasaporteblog.com

Welcome to BlogspotWorld said...

I've been using them for a couple of months and am earning a decent amount of money just for sharing videos I find elsewhere. Easy. One of my favorite parts about Flixya is that each person gets their own sub-site to promote videos

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